I've owned a 360 Modena for a month,

"CAR_IS_MI" (car-is-mi) 06/15/2015 at 06:45 • Filed to: Ferrari, One month review

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And Doug DeMuro was wrong.

It was actually 32 days ago now, I had been waiting 5 days for the funds to clear, and there was another buyer in line for the sale at the dealer where I purchased it from (and no, this was not a sales trick, as I happen to work for the dealer as well...), and I was told, unfortunately, if your funds don’t show up today we will have to sell it to the other buyer.

The pit in my stomach, a childhood dream, so close, yet so far away. My mind started racing, I HAD to have this car. I started calling every number I could find looking for short term cash. and then it happened. buzz buzz. One new notification, your funds have cleared. The smile on my face.

I took delivery at approximately 4:30 pm on 5/13/15. I got into the car, pushed the button, turned the key, and .... hmm, thats interesting. Lets try that again. Push the button, turn the key, and... Well now theres a crowd gathering, and I can’t seem to get this Ferrari started. ok one more time, push the button, turn the key, vroom! success!!! (turns out the alarm system is kind of touchy, and it takes a few minutes to understand what the buttons and lights mean).

Home at last.

The drive home way amazing. The sound of the flat-plane V8, the gawkers from onlookers and people hanging out car windows to video tape it. I have to admit, it was kind of fun.

The second thing I did with my Ferrari was get gas. I wouldn’t let them fill it up at the dealer because I wanted to make sure it only got top grade fuel from a Shell station.

Now !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! that getting gas is the hardest part of owning an exotic car due to everyone and their mother wanting to come over and talk to you about their car, and ways it’s better than your. Now I have filled up 4 separate times in different parts of the city at different times of the day, and not once, has anyone even so much as said hello in my general direction on any of the trips.

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Doug also seems to think you !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! .

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So far I’ve taken my Ferrari to the grocery store, Target, the mall, a casino, a shopping center, a restaurant that is down a dirt and rock road, my work, and the gym. I’ve also driven it in the rain, on the highway in rush hour, and down Las Vegas Boulevard.

Yes, you do always have to watch for bad drivers, but I do that in my other cars anyways. Yes, you do get attention, but maybe it’s just my area, it’s not so frequent that it’s a bother. Yes, the cost of repairs is high on a vehicle like this, but, compared to other cars of similar make, its quite affordable, and, as Mr. DeMuro also pointed out, the 360 is one of the !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! Ferrari has produced.

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While I haven’t intentionally tried to go places and pick up women, I doubt that would be an issue, as this is Vegas... I also have had no issues getting insurance, and my insurance company did not limit my mileage, but rather told me that my insurance would be void if I participated in any rally’s, speed contests, or race events. Again, I live in Vegas, where there is no snow, so the roads don’t fall apart, and there are no sink holes in the road. So far, everyone who has ridden in the car has told me how surprised they are at how smooth the car actually is.

I can’t say I am disappointed with the car, but I can say, as my first purchase into the exotic world, I probably should have gone with something a little less spendy to get my toes wet, but all in all, it’s an amazing car, with an amazing ride, and incredibly fun to drive, especially in sport mode, and even with a non-three-pedal transmission.

So thanks Doug, for making me terrified of my purchase for no reason. I would totally do it again, and my only hope is that I can make more money so I can buy another with a proper transmission.

pip bip - choose Corrour > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 06:58

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how many miles have you driven in it?

JKER > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 07:02

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Now I have filled up 4 separate times in different parts of the city at different times of the day, and not once, has anyone even so much as said hello in my general direction on any of the trips.

Yours isn’t red. Also, you live in Vegas instead of a poor suburban neighborhood like Doug.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 07:08

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I ignore people in petrol stations with exotic cars, primarily because I’m jealous. A true Jalop Opponaut I am not.

TheOnelectronic > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 06/15/2015 at 07:16

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I ignore them because I figure one more looky-loo isn’t going to make their day better.

TheOnelectronic > pip bip - choose Corrour 06/15/2015 at 07:17

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He said four fill-ups so... I’m guessing 200 miles.

pip bip - choose Corrour > TheOnelectronic 06/15/2015 at 07:18

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that many?

hypermiler!

;)

traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn > JKER 06/15/2015 at 07:41

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Also, I think Doug’s conversations were staged.

JKER > traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn 06/15/2015 at 07:43

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I refuse to believe that. You’re the kind of person that goes around telling kids Santa isn’t real, aren’t you?

traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn > JKER 06/15/2015 at 07:44

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Just a thought of mine, it could be false.

JR1 > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 07:47

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I'm glad Doug was wrong. He seemed to be overly harsh towards the 360. Here is hoping you have many trouble free miles ahead of you.

JGrabowMSt > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 07:55

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Ive been DDing my SL600 Sport for a several weeks now. I really cant wait to get my wagon back, but its arguably nicer on a daily basis, more comfortable, more amenities, but Im spending easily double my gas budget, if not more.

It also sucks having to park it on the street every night and drive it through terrible traffic every day. V12s do not appreciate traffic when its 97F out. The temp gauge goes up, and stays up. Aside from having to keep the electric fans on at all times for that, driving an exotic just costs a lot of gas money. Even my insurance isnt much, just a few dollars more than Magnum with more coverage actually.

I have been stopped quite a lot to know more about it, but not just anywhere. Theres a certain crowd that always pops up. Otherwise, you just play the old ‘count the cylinders’ game with the younger crowd.

CalzoneGolem > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 07:57

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Doug’s kinda an idiot but being in Vegas and it not being red are probably pretty big factors.

NotUnlessRoundIsFunny > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 09:05

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Now Doug says that getting gas is the hardest part of owning an exotic car due to everyone and their mother wanting to come over and talk to you about their car, and ways it’s better than your.

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It’s funny, but in my neighborhood people would stay away from a pantless Ferrari driver at a gas station, but it’s different where Doug lives.

wkiernan > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 09:06

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Now I have filled up 4 separate times in different parts of the city at different times of the day, and not once, has anyone even so much as said hello in my general direction on any of the trips.

So what you’re saying is, it wasn’t the car, it was Doug the Muro’s radiant charisma that brought all the car nuts to the yard. That’s easy to believe; in fact, it should have been obvious all along.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 09:32

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Looks better in silver than red or yellow, but may only place second to blue.

Cherry_man1 > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 09:32

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Ya you in Vegas, people are kinda used to seeing them. Also how finickiness is the security system?

Takuro Spirit > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 09:41

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Pretty sure that’s Doug DeMuro’s clip on mic, dude.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > JKER 06/15/2015 at 10:00

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I did that once.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 10:20

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What’s the milage? I have heard that post 45,000 miles things go downhill quickly.

cazzyodo > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 10:58

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Jeep/Ferrari combo or did I miss a lot more than a Ferrari purchase?

CB > JKER 06/15/2015 at 11:23

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There was a case in Kingston a few years ago where a drunk man at the Santa Claus Parade was telling kids that Santa didn’t exist.

JKER > CB 06/15/2015 at 11:26

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Update: his name was Daily Drives a dragon .

smithvmi > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 11:26

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Did you take it to cars and coffee or Espressos and Exotics?

CAR_IS_MI > smithvmi 06/15/2015 at 12:27

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Yes I’ve done that as well

CAR_IS_MI > cazzyodo 06/15/2015 at 12:28

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Jeep / Ferrari / Fiat combo

CAR_IS_MI > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 06/15/2015 at 12:29

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18k, and I’ve seen plenty of 360 with 60k+. They do fine as long as they are properly maintained.

cazzyodo > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 12:30

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Nice, man. Haha.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 12:31

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Granted I heard this on the TST podcast from the Gotham Dreamcars owner, so you could probably take my number and multiply by 1.25-1.5 to account for rental abuse.

CAR_IS_MI > CalzoneGolem 06/15/2015 at 12:32

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Another reason why I prefer non-red Ferraris.

CAR_IS_MI > pip bip - choose Corrour 06/15/2015 at 12:35

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About 700

CAR_IS_MI > TheOnelectronic 06/15/2015 at 12:35

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Normally, yes, but these bad boys have a 24 gallon fuel tank...

CAR_IS_MI > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 06/15/2015 at 12:39

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Yea, those rentals are maintained, but not in the intervals they should. I rented a 430 once and the transmission felt really really harsh. I later spoke to a 430 owner who told me the, more than likely, the clutch wasn’t replaced at proper intervals, because Ferrari recommends replacing them at 70% remaining life at a cost of roughly $3500. Its a rental, so people are going to be so overjoyed that they get to drive a Ferrari they wont even realize the clutch is down to 10% .

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 13:10

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Early F1 transmissions scare me, how is it?

smithvmi > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 14:38

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Damn I must have been too busy staring at the Noble. Hopefully I’ll catch you next time.

CAR_IS_MI > StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 06/15/2015 at 14:59

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Pretty solid. The trans on the 360 is decent, they did a software update in 04 which helped the trans out a lot (and thats something I could do if I wanted to), and they burn through clutches if you try to drive it like it has an auto trans.

Doug DeMuro > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 15:11

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It should be noted I was VERY careful to say that the car didn’t work for me. I did not say it wouldn’t work for everyone. This is a very important distinction that was lost on a lot of FerrariChat people too.

I still love Ferraris and would happily own another someday, but it didn’t work for me for many many reasons I outlined after nearly a year of driving and 5,000 miles.

It’s also worth noting that I loved mine at first, too. The first four months were a lot of fun. The day I sold it was the happiest day of my ownership experience.

Finally, it’s worth noting that one thing I’ve learned over the last two years is that people who spend big money on these cars do so with a lot of emotion involved, which is why they’ve become so angry with me. I didn’t have the emotional attachment that clouds many owners’ judgement about the ownership experience, and I think that’s crucial to judging the car fairly. Ferrari gets away with a lot of stuff - stuff that Honda couldn’t even pull off - by selling emotion and experience.

My two cents. I am seriously glad you're enjoying the car. It looks great.

CalzoneGolem > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 15:12

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silver < red < any other color

CAR_IS_MI > Doug DeMuro 06/15/2015 at 15:15

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I just like poking fun at you Doug. It’s more fun that way.

CAR_IS_MI > CalzoneGolem 06/15/2015 at 15:18

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wait, are you putting silver at the bottom of your list?

CalzoneGolem > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 15:20

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Yeah it doesn’t work for me here.

Trevor Slattery, ACTOR > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 15:44

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Replace with 70% of the life still available? WTF?

DrScientist > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 15:59

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as my first purchase into the exotic world, I probably should have gone with something a little less spendy to get my toes wet,

wondering what this might be in your mind. 996 turbo? but is that even considered “exotic?” maybe a v8 vantage?

and do you mean spendy in the buy-in or maintenance costs?

B_dol > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 16:01

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Congrats! and glad to hear you are out there driving it. Is this a short term purchase for you as a fun investment or have you not thought that far into the future?

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 16:13

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Yeah the attention for rarer cars comes and goes, it seems to pour more than rain. I don’t have a Ferrari but I have a pretty loud and orange 240Z that seems to have made a lot of memories for people in the 70’s. I get many at gas stations and parking lots come tell me they used to have one or a boyfriend had one (some I’m sure were 260’s and 280’s). I live in Marin/SF, I have always felt people here will inquire about a classic but not a newer exotic, not sure why. My dad’s friend has a 458 and he says people never talk to him, they look but don’t approach him. This area is pretty well known for leaving famous people alone in public so I think it connects with that. I do sometimes get people hanging out car windows asking me questions at a stoplight, I have been collecting notes to buy it left under my wiper.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > smithvmi 06/15/2015 at 16:15

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When there are 6 new Ferraris at the meet ups I don’t even look at them, its like a Civic to me, if its all stock, I’ve seen so many. 911s too, they are like Camrys here in SF. I go for the odd classics that appear like Lancias and rare Euro imports because its as close as I can get to one and I can ask the owner to check out stuff.

Loping Camshaft > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 16:20

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So when Doug mentioned all the silly and sometimes dickish comments he got while getting gas, it seems it was less “wow, you must successful” and more “wow. You? How do YOU have money”. I guess wearing pants lends you credibility...

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 16:36

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Congrats on the purchase of your second Fiat!

jampackedfundawg > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 17:35

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“I wouldn’t let them fill it up at the dealer because I wanted to make sure it only got top grade fuel from a Shell station.”

I have always doubted the stealerships filling up a new car with premium even if it requires premium. Not doubting it anymore, they must be using regular. A guy that buys a car FROM the dealer he WORKS at, doesn’t trust it then no way in hell I should.

-Tom- > traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn 06/15/2015 at 17:37

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In that video they were, however they were recreations of actual conversations he has gotten into with people, he was very upfront about that fact.

TheOnelectronic > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 17:37

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I think I remember looking into the F430 at one point and noticing the INSANELY huge fuel tank. I think it was something like 30 gallons.

My FoST has TWELVE.

Future next gen S2000 owner > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 17:38

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Sexiest car to come out of Maranello.

jampackedfundawg > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 17:38

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Doug is a liar, and fakes most of his interactions in all his content/videos.

Bob LeDrew > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 17:41

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Congratulations. Enjoy it!

I used to own a Jetstar1 > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 17:41

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I love cars, but I can’t think of any modern car that would make me feel compelled to start conversation. Ok, you’re rich, you bought a nice car...

Someone driving a Daytona, Facel Vega, Camargue, LM002, 400i, yeah I got questions for you!

Uncle Bob > Doug DeMuro 06/15/2015 at 17:43

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Also you would have done much better with the ladies if you had bought some nice jeans instead of wearing those famous shorts :D

Uncle Bob > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 17:43

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Way more fun ;)

CRider > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 17:44

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I wouldn’t let them fill it up at the dealer because I wanted to make sure it only got top grade fuel from a Shell station.

“You ran a tank of 76? That’ll be $1,000 off” - Rod

Hobbes.drives.an.A5 > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 17:44

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Your 360 looks beautiful in silver

Those wheels are very, very nice :)

Ok, it’s a shame it’s not the gated manual, but YOU HAVE A FERRARI!

I’m really glad you’re proving Doug wrong about Ferrari ownership (only because I aspire to the same one day)

Johnnyazz > CalzoneGolem 06/15/2015 at 17:45

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Blue is the best. dont give me anything else!

Uncle Bob > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 17:45

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The problem with your car is that it sounds too good.

It’s not fair that you get eargasms while driving and the rest of us get shitty sounds.

Everything else sounds crappy compared to your car, including most high revving V8s and V10s.

60 valve flat plane V8 is best V8.

RazoE > JKER 06/15/2015 at 17:45

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Maybe Doug is just much more handsomer-er-er-er

Scott Satellite > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 17:46

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Congratulations on not getting a red one. In general I love red but on this car it ups the class factor exponentially.

Sneaky Pete > traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn 06/15/2015 at 17:47

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I don’t think they were. I’ve experienced many of the same occurrences that Doug documented. I think the big reason is that the car is silver.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Doug DeMuro 06/15/2015 at 17:47

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Noted. Noting. And Noting... Dually triply noted.

iwrock > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 17:48

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What if I told you that you were in for a treat when the clutch and/or belt services come due? :D

(belt service isn’t so scary on these, as the engine doesn’t have to come out, but the interior does need to be disassembled!)

dmcspeedy > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 17:48

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It looks surprisingly great in this colour - somehow the usual bright reds and yellows make it look more dated.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 17:48

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Congrats on the front page!

TheHondaBro > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 17:51

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Well to be fair, you live in Las Vegas. Doug lives in bumfuck nowhere.

OdinThe1337 > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 17:52

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Nice car! The color suits it well. I hope you enjoy it, seems like a “freaky grin generator” to me, as it puts a smile on your face driving it, that only slowely fades away during the day.

bre92ser > Doug DeMuro 06/15/2015 at 17:52

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Why is this not at the top of the page? Kinja’d!

NGN_DZNR > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 17:54

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Are the plastic/rubber switches and knobs melting or getting tacky yet from the heat? I know someone that had a 360 and that was one of his biggest gripes. Apparently its a common problem that still unfixed. He went to the dealer to price out replacing all the switchgear and they told him not to bother, since it would happen again with the new switches.

suss6052 > TheOnelectronic 06/15/2015 at 17:55

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12.4 gallons in a Focus ST, but the Europeans get a 16.38 US gallon fuel tank (62 L), which would help with the range quite a bit.

BAM2k > TheOnelectronic 06/15/2015 at 17:56

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‘14 FoST owner here.. With only 10 gallons usable before the light comes on..

Junker_CM > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 17:56

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Thank goodness you didn’t crash it.

SteveLehto > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 17:56

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You had me at “Doug DeMuro was wrong.”

Vin > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 17:58

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That’s nothing - I drive my Veyron around all the time and people don’t even glance my way!

- Some dude in Dubai

Fleetwood T. Brougham > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 18:00

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I’ll be tacky enough to ask—-how much?

The Stig's Canadian Cousin > JKER 06/15/2015 at 18:00

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No one said that. ;)

Jordaneer, The Mountaineer Man > traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn 06/15/2015 at 18:01

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They were staged, but based on stuff that had happened to him.

I'm Abe Froman > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 18:01

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How do you like the F1 box? It seems to get a lot of shit from people but I’ve always been interested in them.

Wave Motion Gun > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 18:01

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Brings back COTD and digs into Oppo for FP content on the same day? Patrick is the man.

Drakkon- Most Glorious and Upright Person of Genius > JKER 06/15/2015 at 18:02

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My kids still believe in Santa and I think I’m going to have the sex talk with one of them before the you know, about this Santa business.... talk

UncleWalty > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 18:02

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What did you pay for it?

SirUno > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 18:03

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Now I have filled up 4 separate times in different parts of the city at different times of the day, and not once, has anyone even so much as said hello in my general direction on any of the trips.

Perhaos because you are in Vegas. Oddly enough, my Mustang (2005 S197) gets more attention than is ever think possible.

Strange. Have fun with that bad chad!

WillyWonka12 > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 18:03

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Are you exaggerating or does that car seriously get 7 MPG on premium?

Jordaneer, The Mountaineer Man > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 18:04

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Evidentially a mopar man, all 3 cars from the same parent company of Chrysler/fiat

Michael Stone > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 18:06

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Screw the (silver) Ferrari. What type of man groomer do you use on that wickedly cool beard? It’s lines are perfect! How’d you do that?

WillyWonka12 > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 06/15/2015 at 18:07

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“I have always felt people here will inquire about a classic but not a newer exotic, not sure why.”

The way I see it, all it takes is money to own a new exotic. It takes money and a true love of cars to own a classic exotic.

Eddie Brannan > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 06/15/2015 at 18:09

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I give them a subtle “my other car’s an exotic too—this is just my grocery getter” smile. They give me a “dream on, pauper” wink back. We both go on about our days.

FauxhemianRhapshody > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 18:09

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Just to be clear- was that “filled up 4 separate times” just on the way home from the dealer?

ninjagin > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 18:10

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Congrats! Looks marvelous! I’m curious about some things, though:

- Do you find that you need to keep it on a tender when parked?

- Do you plan on keeping it for awhile, or is this a delicious dalliance (summer romance)?

Well done, sir.

ScrotumKnots > Doug DeMuro 06/15/2015 at 18:11

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Maybe I missed something in your article. Sounded like you liked the car to me. Time to go back and reread.

iggysaab9 > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 18:11

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My OCD side is screaming about those f430 rims on a 360. Deep breaths...

TheSpin > JKER 06/15/2015 at 18:12

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I don’t know...I live in Vegas and am always bothered when I am fueling. My car IS orange and loud as hell, though.

Gary Yogurt > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 18:13

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Doug is a series of IBM super-computers programmed only to embellish and praise the short-wearing lifestyle.

TheSpin > smithvmi 06/15/2015 at 18:13

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The Jalop world is getting small all of a sudden. I am friends with the Nobel owner. I wasn't at the last E&E though, so I didn't see the Ferrari.

the 1969 Dodge Charger Guy > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 18:16

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You’re living your dream—good for you. What’s the point of being alive unless we can have fun once and awhile?

The Compromiser > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 18:16

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Who stole the shifter?

Hurderphurhmanualelitederp.

TheSpin > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 18:17

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Greetings fellow Vegas exotic owner. Well, I think mine is more semi-exotic, but I assume we will run into each other at some point at C&C or E&E.

Prophet of hoon > CAR_IS_MI 06/15/2015 at 18:20

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It’s not “please notice me I’m desperate for attention red.” Odds are the first comment you’ll get is “is that the new Corvette?”